MOVE Like This!

Accounting firm leaders are justifiably concerned about recruiting and retaining the talent needed for their firms to survive, and ideally, thrive. MOVE Like This features conversations, lessons and ideas Accounting MOVE Project firms have used to successfully find, retain, develop and advance women and diverse talent to drive competitive advantage and stand out from the crowd.

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4 days ago

Lori Leutwyler, HR Manager at Kerbering Barberio in Florida shares what her firm does to retain women so much better than other accounting firms, how they are extradorinarily selective about the clients they choose to serve and what they do to maintain connections in an environment where 65% of their staff employ a remote or hybrid schedule. We also learn about her incredibly brave great-grandmother's immigration story and the unique, but very useful, superpower she'd like to have. To learn more about Kerkering Barberio, visit 

Wednesday Sep 13, 2023

Jina Etienne, CEO of Etienne Consulting which exists to help clients all break through unseen barriers to see and create what is beyond. On this episode we learn more about Jina's work with firms, discuss some of the biggest changes impacting the accounting profession, and learn how she defines and helps firms create "fearless inclusion." To learn more about Jina and her firm, visit 

Wednesday Aug 30, 2023

On this episode, you get two for the price of one as I talk to both Karen Mattull, COO and principal, and Kim Paskal, tax department COO and principal, from BeachFleischman in Arizona. We discuss how the firm has incorporated greater flexibility into its structure, how they have been successful recruiting and retaining women and people of color, and the advice they have for other firms with similar goals. We also learn how together, Karen and Kim would use their superpowers for the good of us all. To learn more about BeachFleischman, visit their website:

Wednesday Aug 16, 2023

Avani Desai, CEO of Schellman, talks about her firm's unique service offering, how they intentionally recruit women and people of color, and many of the ways they create a culture where people want to work. We also learn about some of the interesting ways they encourage employees to truly unplug to avoid burnout, and Avani offers advice to other firms searching for a similar work-life cohesion. Learn more about Schellman at

Wednesday Aug 02, 2023

Becky Guenther, Director of Total Rewards at Rehmann shares all the reasons why her firm has been named one of the Best CPA Firms for Women for the last 10 years. Topics include how they are weaving DEI into all parts of the firm, the importance of ensuring pay equity and all the ways the firm managed to avoid the "Great Resignation" too. We also determine that we should all have "positivity rays" on hand at all times. Learn more about Rehmann at  

Wednesday Jul 19, 2023

Donny Shimamoto, the visionary behind the Center for Accounting Transformation, joins MOVE Like This to talk about the work he is doing to help accounting firms become more inclusive and what he has learned from his recent DEI research. We discuss how there are so many ways to think about diversity, and that no firm is too small to embrace it. Toward the end, we learn why he'd love to travel back to Japan, and Bonnie adds a new place to her travel bucket list. 

Wednesday Jul 05, 2023

Tricia Bencich, Inclusion & Social Responsibility Associate Director at Moss Adams, discusses the policies and initiatives the firm is undertaking to create an inclusive work culture where team members want to stay and how they are measuring their efforts so they know what is working and what may need adjustment. We also talk about Moss Adams' original and continued support as MOVE's founding sponsor, and Tricia provides recommendations for firms just getting started on their DEI journey. We end with a discussion of how both Tricia and Bonnie would like to be able to make things happen by twitching their noses like Samantha on the 70s TV show Bewitched. Learn more about Moss Adams here:

Wednesday Jun 21, 2023

Lori Kaiser, founder and CEO of Kaiser Consulting, talks about her firm's unique model of all employees working part-time hours, their recent acquisition by a private equity firm, and why traveling to Antartica is on her bucket list. 

Wednesday Jun 07, 2023

Scharrell Jackson, an accomplished international keynote speaker and leadership coach with decades of firsthand public accounting experience, joins MOVE Like This to talk about Juneteenth and so much more. We touch on the changes firm leaders must embrace to compete in today's market, how to bring more diversity to the profession, and the importance of creating a work culture of inclusion so everyone can feel like they belong, contribute and rise through the ranks to become leaders. 

Wednesday May 24, 2023

Corinne LaRoche, Nonprofit Partner, James Moore & Co. shares some of the reasons her firm has nearly reached partner between men and women, her thoughts on how firms can approach work differently to adjust to fewer students entering the profession, and why she wanted to be a weather girl when she was 5 years old.  Visit to learn more about James Moore & Co.


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